joining me is marge yee omaraand ron myer. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> let me start, i am struck by the fact that tim geithner is so political in the discussions and calling out republicans, is that normal. >> i think he's on the way out of the door and doing it for president obama because they want the negotiations to found. howard dean said this is the best deal progressive democrats are going to get. if the fiscal cliff and the deal and what happens if we go off of the cliff. it really is a dnplatform. higher taxs and defense spending and isn't that what their platform said. they want to go off of the fiscal cliff. then negotiations fail president obama will not get blamed. it is someone else. >> gretchen: marjorie that sounds right other than the middle class getting hit with a tax hike isn't everything that ron just part of the dnc. >> it is it a big issue. president obama and really american people don't want to see middle class americans pay additional 2000 in taxes n which is what will happen in ad